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VIDEO: Neil deGrasse Tyson: Neo Pagan Atheism

The following discussion ensued as Ulyanin wrote:

Wait, how is Neo-Paganism considered Atheism? At their hearts, both Neo-Paganism and Paganism implied the belief and reverence in Nature or manifestations that represent an aspect of Nature. Did someone forget to inform the Atheist community that you actually needed to be SPIRITUAL in order to practice Neo-Paganism???

My reply:

Great question friend, when you listen to Atheist evolutionists it is clear that they “reverence in Nature or manifestations that represent an aspect of Nature” since they view nature as our creator. Thus, the replace awe in God with awe in nature and this is paganism. Also, no one “forget to inform the Atheist community that you actually needed to be SPIRITUAL in order to practice Neo-Paganism” since many have such as Sam Harris the Buddhist Atheist mystic (who does not like the terms Buddhist or Atheist), Michael Shermer stated that his study of evolution became Atheism spirituality that is also holier than thou, “far more enlightening and transcendent, spiritual, than anything I had experienced in seven years of being a born again Christian” as he put it. See my article, “Atheism Spirituality”: http://www.truefreethinker.com/articles/atheism-spirituality

The next reply was from Conor Henderson who started unhindged and somehow managed to only get worst (all quotes from him are sic., including ellipses points, except that I censored his expletives):

Ken Ammi that question since you don’t want to f[***] paganism is actually moron and you falsely quit him with that that makes you a total liar and typical ignorant moron because pagans also works at Krieger deities were better than he break when different to pour in and outside of nature better than they are

Ken Ammi

Friend, please mind your manners. I am going to assume that English is not your first language (neither is mine) so your comment is a little difficult to understand. By “that question” do you mean “the question” is something or other? Also no, I “don’t want to *** paganism” and no one could since it is a concept and not a physical being. Sorry, but I do not understand what the rest of your comment means. Maybe try again, please.

Conor Henderson

Ok, here is a more comprehensive response. Is true comprehension your first understanding it ? It seems not sooo…
Why not know it pagaism because you know nothing about and beLIEve every lie that they brainwash you with and indoctrinate you with against and its true Godly holy nature and goodness contrary to all the Hebraic Lies youve been spoonfed. Anyone can Ken and that is whee you are completely wrong and lost. It is a concept but also contrary to all the LIES you been told. It is the service…

Ken Ammi

Friend, what makes you think that I have been brainwashed, indoctrinated and spoon fed? What makes you think that you know anything about my private life? You statement is literally prejudice.
May I ask: Do you believe something to the likes of that nothing caused nothing to explode for no reason, made everything without meaning and that your thoughts are interpretations of bio-chemical sensory neural reactions occurring within the haphazardly evolved brain of an accidentally and temporarily existing bio-organism who sits atop a spinning rock, orbiting an average star in the backwaters of an accidentally and temporarily existing universe?

Conor Henderson

+Ken Ammi you have been brainwashed dude and you don’t even know it. Will you put display your beliefs shows your private life I also looked at your channel that shows a bit of your private life because everyone puts a piece of themselves into their channel so I don’t bit about your private life no actually wrong sir my statement is actually accurate and true and give you what you deserve because of your falsehood and lies and evil. Do I believe what to the lakes explode no explore don’t know what you mean by that? Nonsensical claim you just said right there is nonsensical and Not a question. Made everything without meaning or thoughts well you seem to fit because you think everything has no meaning. No evolving doesn’t mean accident I could arrange been intended. Well we do live on a spinning ball rock that’s how the earth was made with you over the sun mathematics physics and prove that to be true so you can’t deny that Ross you’re a large but it’s real and like the fake flat earth nonsense stinking everything of our walls around me which pisses off any idea of a creator because I told Credit to be a liar and thinking everything is all about you when it ain’t it’s only partially about you and about other things too and that’s very selfish of you to think everything is all about you you never think about what you’re saying. By the way your entire state when he was about paganism would you know nothing about picking it was about serving a creator or creators who did make everything for us as well as we’re not the center of everything we’re also one of the things we are joined by the creators so what are you talking about you believe in accidents I don’t I know everything has a purpose even accidents can I purposes dude but I can tell your believes are in accident a terrible big bang accident of distraction and evolution really you’re the only full here so I don’t know what you’re talking about the big bang if your talk with the big bang it did happen it was and intended move by the creators is part of the creation I mean the movements of evolution as partial truth to it but the idea we came right out of the sand from nothing you simply false we did have a creator what your idea of it is a creation of deception you created in your mind that you’ve been brainwashed and spoonfed until then since you lack science you are pathetic fool just saying. I have a question for you why do you believe in a fake little no creator who made everything in a flat earth within only a week and create two naked juice and a garden and created a flood only 4000 years ago which is impossible and a tower story which never happens based off earlier myths and a character named Abraham about Jill and exitus and many many many many many other things you’re an idiot if you think that that story is fictional the flood stories earlier ones that actually are true in fact the flood store the Bible and only is fake but it proves it’s the fake one and that the earlier ones that inspired it from the Gentiles what we call pagans earlier wrong way though actually it was true and actually supported by the Bible and the Bible proves there to be true not the other way around as you been spoonfed by wicked Hebraism. (Hebraism is the correct overall term for Judaism Christianity Satanism Islam Baha’i etc all together since it started not with Abraham or Noah but with Adam at creation with your god yahweh)

Anyways you have been brainwashed into see it’s because you believe in and fix pseudo evolution which is what your beliefs are all evolution a downgrade and you’ve been fed with the creation which is devil warship which is Hebraism wake up you’ve been deceived.

Ken Ammi

Friend, you have made a critical error in logic by biasedly jumping to conclusions. You looked at my channel but you merely conclude that I have been brainwashed: my question is what makes you think that? Just because you disagree with someone does not mean that they are brainwashed. Now, I see that you are condemning “falsehood and lies and evil” but upon what premise do you do so? How does your worldview account for the absolute ethics to which you are holding me? Also, who made you some sort of ethics police so that you troll the internet looking to punish people for what they “deserve”? Okay now, I am not sure what “the lakes explode no explore” even means but I was asking if you believe that the universe came about because nothing caused nothing to explode. What makes you think that I think that “everything has no meaning”? So, you do not believe that “evolving…mean accident” great: so who “intended” the “arrange[ment]”? I am unsure how asking about a “spinning rock” has to do with the flat Earth but you seem to emotively jump to very many faulty conclusions. Also, what makes you think that I think that “everything is all about” me?

Friend, you should really ask one of your friends who is fluent in English to help you write comments because it is very difficult to understand what you are saying. For example, you ask me “why do you believe in a fake little no creator who made everything in a flat earth within only a week and create two naked juice and a garden…” which is utterly meaningless.

Conor Henderson

no sir I’m afraid you’re wrong you made a critical error by making false claims about pagans or any other believes that you know nothing about I don’t jump to conclusions I go to conclusions I’m on the attic including the irrefutable and true you just don’t understand that which proves your fall so that pathetic existence so wrong. Everything does have a meeting and a creation purpose by the creator but the idea that you believe in open brainwashed into it was an absolute deception and lies devil work pal Middle Eastern true Hebrew people wake up info so wrong you’re so far from the truth

Ken Ammi

Friend, you jump to conclusions by not bothering to show how you reach them. Merely continuing to make the empty claim that I am brainwashed does not prove it and is also illogical since just because someone may be brainwashed does not necessarily mean that they are wrong. You are committing the ad hominem logical fallacy.

Conor Henderson

isn’t that what you do sir is there a hypocrite piece of s[***] you like every other godless sheep out there likes to make conclusions without actually getting there and just throwing words out there so guess who’s the real dishonest person makes false and he claims all you fools I don’t make empty clean I make through absolute claims your opinion is wrong and deceptive wake up

Ken Ammi

Friend, please mind your manners. Now, “isn’t that what you do” is psychologically called transference and you are applying it in order to avoid answering questions which are troublesome to your worldview. Then you categorize me as “godless” even though I am not. Also, to what am I supposed to “wake up”? Lastly, this time you condemn hypocrisy and dishonesty but upon what premise? What I am asking is even when someone really is being hypocritical and dishonest how does your worldview account for condemning that?

Conor Henderson

Ken Ammi please sir mind your ignorance and stop lying and maybe I won’t have to call you out and expose you as the lying fool that you are. You do need to wake up is your absolute you’re officially wrong and deceived. Yeah because you were acting godlessly and no you are very much acting that way all you can do is deny that meaninglessly but doesn’t change the fact that you are you are that so don’t lie to yourself. We’re going to the fact you’re wrong about paganism you more on about how you accuse other people of something you don’t know anything about in your ignorant over you [****]ing moron. How about you take down this stupid video of yours and maybe I won’t have to keep exposing you some more. The premise of your stupid video dummy are you that ignorant you have no cars but I have every caused to call you out and attack you so don’t lie to yourself. You are not innocent you are guilty. How does your worldview even survive by making lies up dude you are acting dishonestly and hypocritically you fool you are exposed so your ignorance is laughable thinking I am talking without causeway that’s false and attack you with absolute pure causal don’t lie to yourself. You cannot defend a damn thing about what you’re saying or your video it’s absolute lies and you are a hypocrite and a liar and an ignorant fool. Wake up and admit you are wrong and take down this video as a form of your repentance.

I pray for your lost soul.

Ken Ammi

Friend, please mind your manners as well as your anger. You seem to want to ignore questions that are troublesome to your worldview. You again claim that I am lying without evidence and condemn lying without a premise. Now, perhaps we can focus as you assert that I am “wrong about paganism” so please elucidate how so.

Conor Henderson

+Ken Ammi there’s no question there are troublesome just meaningless statements by ignorant people like yourself who don’t know anything about what you’re talking about so it’s not troublesome it’s annoying and stupid and meaningless that’s not troublesome. Yes you are lying without evidence and you can damage because you have a false premise you have no basis because you’re ignorant means you’re brainwashed. Why are you spoke on your video you idiot and basically on what you said about a new state of the word paganism you don’t want to [****] the word paganism is by your very own actions you’re talking a secular thing has all nothing to do with Paganism Hell even Hebraism or anything else spiritual or theological and yet you ignorantly slap that label on their proving your own retarded ignorance and deception and that’s why am exposing you in it and calling you out for the deception you pulled out of you’re a[**] and the ignorance you displayed and that’s why I’m saying again I’m exposing you and refuting you so there you go idiot if you that dance and you can’t get that through your head and we willingly man enough to actually admit your error and failure to actually make any sense or see that you were of been wrong about what you said I need to really correct yourself then you couldn’t be any more lost in ignorant and deluded than you are right now.

Ken Ammi

Friend, apparently you think that I am misapplying the term/concept of Paganism (and for some reason this makes you very angry). My point has been that some Atheists are comporting themselves as Neo-Pagans by replacing awe in God with awe in nature: viewing nature as their creator, etc.

Conor Henderson

Ken Ammi don’t try to lie to try to get out of it you’re guilty of bulls[***]ting and lying and that’s why I’m on your a[**] so don’t make s[***] up dude it just makes you more pathetic.

Ken Ammi

Friend, this is typical comment sectioning: you ignore facts, you refuse to answer simple questions, you get emotional, you act like a childish school yard bully and you keep claiming that I am lying without evidence and condemning lying without a premise.

Ulyanin chimed in, in an attempt to be a voice of reason:

Conor, just stop whatever it is you’re doing. You are only painting Pagans in a bad light to others because of how you’re conducting yourself. Don’t continue this any further because this is truly disgusting to see. Ken, I’m not even sure that Conor knows who he’s attacking, and I’m starting to suspect that he is trolling…

Yet, Conor would have none of it:

Ken is a f[***]ing troll dude he said something at the line I’m calling them out for it and I’m asking him to correct himself and he made he was wrong and take it back he painted pagans in a bad light and use that word falsely for things that have nothing to do with it and yet no one’s calling him out on it so that’s what I’m doing

Ken Ammi

+Ulyanin, +Conor Henderson
Well, I do not even mind trolls as long as they are capable of engaging in reasoned discourse but then again, I suppose that a lack of ability or willingness to do so is what makes them a troll in the first place. Notice that Conor is besmirching Atheists since I claimed that Atheism is Neo-Pagan and he stated that I “painted pagans in a bad light.” In any case, he appears to be some sort of self-appointed Paganism police or something.

Conor Henderson

+Ken Ammi Siri you’re in recent in this course and the only person you are is the troll I’m not patrol you’re on the corrector of idiots like you who are trolls so don’t lie again for you don’t have the ability to actually no s[***] yeah and that’s false because atheism is not pagan you moron shows how pathetically ignorant you are yeah because you miss use that word and you made a false claim and I’m calling you out for it because you need absolute correction you’re absolutely wrong on that so I’m calling you out and exposing you want it and you know you can’t defend that since you barely going to leave my paganism you don’t know anything about atheists either had a contract which other just like Hebraism which is what your of Will be much closer to atheism because you have one less God been on my believes are or pagans do or believe or now so your ignorance is actually pathetic not a police I’m just here to bust your a[**] for doing s[***] wrong you can call police if you want but I’m not a police I’m just here to support the truth to you sure you see that and except the correction that you keep responding to me proves how you know I’m right

And before I could reply, he wrote again:

+Ken Ammi no retard I do have a premise unlike you you don’t have a real promise but telling lies and deception and you don’t know what research is either or facts are not every moron on YouTube pull things out of your a[**] make false condemnations without evidence without fax without truth and just say oh I think my opinion doesn’t matter your opinion is a lie and you don’t realize that you have a very miss guided very very misguided opinion

Ken Ammi

Friend, you seem to have a lot of personal problems so please get some help dealing with your anger.

Conor Henderson

Ken Ammi my personal problems with idiots like you who are ignorant brainwash Godless retarded and saved you are the problem not me you need to get some help not me there you go.

Ken Ammi

So, your reply to being urged to deal with your anger is to further express anger: do you see the problem in that? Worse yet, you excuse your anger by blaming others which is very dangerous. Now, just how am I “Godless” since I believe in God?

And that, as they say, was that.

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