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Roman Catholicism – Was Peter the Rock? Was Peter the First Pope?

This essay will consider whether the apostle Peter was appointed to be the rock the first Pope.

Also, see my archive of Roman Catholic related essays here.

Let us begin by considering the primary text to which appeal is made in discussing the claim that Jesus appointed Peter as Pope:

When Jesus came into the region of Caesarea Philippi, He asked His disciples, saying, “Who do men say that I, the Son of Man, am?” So they said, “Some say John the Baptist, some Elijah, and others Jeremiah or one of the prophets.” He said to them, “But who do you say that I am?”
Simon Peter answered and said, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.”
Jesus answered and said to him, “Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah, for flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but My Father who is in heaven. And I also say to you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build My church, and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it. And I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on Earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on Earth will be loosed in heaven” (Matthew 16:13-20).

Generally, and for some odd reason, when this text is referenced in this regard the rest of the context is not considered,

Then He commanded His disciples that they should tell no one that He was Jesus the Christ. From that time Jesus began to show His disciples that He must go to Jerusalem, and suffer many things form the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised the third day.
Then Peter took Him aside and began to rebuke Him, saying, “Far be it from You, Lord; this shall not happen to You!” But He Turned and said to Peter, “Get behind Me, satan! You are an offense to Me, for you are not mindful of the things of God, but the things of men” (Matthew 16:21-23).

Note that Roman Catholic scholar Jean de Launoy (1603-1678) conducted a survey of the Church Fathers through the 12th century which found that:
8 thought that the apostles (plural) were the rock
16 thought that Christ himself was the rock
17 thought that Peter was the rock
44 thought that Peter’s confession was the rock

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It would be elucidating if we could ask the at least one New Testament writer how he understood Jesus’ words to Peter as this would provide historical context. As it turns out we known how the Matthew text was understood at that time. Whom did they believe was the rock? Did they understand that they were under Peter’s Papacy?
Here are Paul’s answers:

I consider that I am not at all inferior to the most eminent apostles (2nd Corinthians 11:5).

How could Paul not be inferior to the Pope?

by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom you crucified, whom God raised from the dead, by Him this man stands here before you whole. This is the “stone which was rejected by you builders, which has become the chief cornerstone.” Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved (Acts 4:11-12).

Clearly, Jesus is the chief cornerstone.

For I know this, that after my departure savage wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock. Also from among yourselves men will rise up, speaking perverse things, to draw away the disciples after themselves. Therefore watch, and remember that for three years I did not cease to warn everyone night and day with tears.
So now, brethren, I commend you to God and to the word of His grace, which is able to build you up and give you and inheritance among all those who are sanctified (Acts 20:29-32).

To whom does Paul commend the flock? To Peter? To Peter the rock? To Peter the rock, the Pope? To the Papacy? To the Vatican? To even the Bishopric? No, rather to God and to the word of His grace.

For no other foundation can anyone lay than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ (1st Corinthians 3:11).

The foundation is laid on Jesus Himself.

they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them, and that Rock was Christ (1 Corinthians 10:4).

A clear identification of “the Rock.”

you are no longer strangers and foreigners, but fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God, having been built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ Himself being the chief cornerstone, in whom the whole building, being fitted together, grows into a holy temple in the Lord (Ephesians 2:19-20).

Now the fuller picture comes into focus: The ultimate foundation, the chief cornerstone, is Jesus Himself and upon this foundation are built the household of God is built upon apostles and prophets. In fact, Paul wrote that “Christ is head of the church” (Ephesians 5:23).

Note also that if Peter was the Pope and was known to be the Pope; why do the apostles argue about who is greater (Matthew 18:1, 20:20-26; Mark 10:35-43)?

Now, what if we could ask Peter himself how he understood what Jesus had told him?
We have his answer:

The elders who are among you I exhort, I who am a fellow elder (1st Peter 5:1).

Here Peter is affirming his equal standing; he did not see himself as Pope with supreme authority over any other elder.

Coming to Him as to a living stone, rejected indeed by men, but chosen by God and precious, you also, as living stones, are being built up a spiritual house, a holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ. Therefore it is also contained in the Scripture, “Behold, I lay in Zion a chief cornerstone, elect, precious, and he who believes on Him will by no means be put to shame. Therefore, to you who believe He is precious; but to those who are disobedient, The stone which the builders reject has become the chief cornerstone, and a stone of stumbling and a rock of offense (1 Peter 2:4-8).

Peter clearly considered Jesus to be the rock, the stone, a chief cornerstone, upon which a spiritual house, a holy priesthood is based.

Now, let us take a closer look at Matthew 16:18 where Jesus says, “you are Peter, and on this rock I will build My church.”
In Greek there are two words to which we must pay special attention since the text thus reads, “you are Petros, and on this petra I will build My church.”

Petros is a masculine word and petra is feminine.

Petros is something like a piece of rock or stone and petra is a rock like a bolder.

Thus, there is a clear distinction in the Greek text between masculine and feminine as well as a distinction between a pebble and a bolder (or a little piece of a rock and a massive rock).

In Spanish this distinction is likewise clear since Peter/Petro is Pedro and rock/petra is piedra.

But, says the Roman Catholic apologist, Jesus was likely speaking in Aramaic and thus, would have said, “you are Kepha, and on this kepha I will build My church.” So, says the Roman Catholic apologist, there is no distinction and Jesus is clearly stating that Simon is to be known as Kepha and upon Kepha He will build His church.

However, context determines meaning. What if I were to write the following sentence?
“I love my wife, I love my dog and I love ice-cream.” Perhaps an archaeologist would find my sentence 2,000 years from now and think that I was quite disturbed since I love my wife, dog and ice-cream just the same, in the same way; after all I used the same English word for all three.

But maybe, just maybe, a fellow researcher, a linguist perhaps, would explain that while in twenty-first century North American English there was one word love, it actually was used to describe various emotions and intensities. She may explain that context determines meaning.
They may even find more of my writing in which I state, “I love ice-cream because of its sweet flavor and smooth texture,” “I love my dog because she is the mellowest and cutest Chihuahua,” and “I love my wife because she is one flesh with me, she is my best friend, my sweetheart and mother of our children.” Now there would be more context upon which to interpret just what I meant when I used the very same English word to describe my feelings towards ice-cream, my dog and my wife.
This is precisely the case with the New Testament.

As an aside: the inspired New Testament has come to us in the Greek language in which there is a clear distinction between the name that Simon is given and the object upon which the church will be built.

Context does what I term: expand.
If a verse is not clear enough; read the verse before and after it.
If it is still not clear enough; read the whole chapter.
If it is still not clear enough; read the chapter before and after it.
If it is still not clear enough; read the entire book.
If it is still not clear enough; read the book before and after it.
If it is still not clear enough; read the whole Bible.
If it is still not clear enough seek further assistance.
The fact that the New Testament offers a wealth of context for understanding what was meant by Peter and rock, from further words of Jesus, other apostles as well as Peter himself, ultimately means that a discussion of this issue will be hampered by discussing Matthew 16 alone as far as it would be to dislodge the verse from its greater context.

Peter is one of the bricks, as it were, upon which the priesthood of all believers is built yet, he is not the rock, nor the Pope, nor even a more exalted elder; he was a blessed apostle.

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Where to start? Maybe from the fact you obviously know - that the conversation was held in Aramaic. In this language kefa (or cepha if you prefer) means rock. So Jesus probably spoke: "And I also say to you that you are kefa, and on this kefa I will build My church". Peter is also called Kefas(Cephas - s is Greek ending in nominative for masculinine) which means rock by Paul (1Cor 1:12, 15:5, Ga 2:14, 1Cor 3:22, 9:5).
What about Greek petros and petra? Petros means stone (a smaller stone is lithos) and also rock, petra a bolder one. But Petra couldn't have been used as a name for Simon in Greek translation of Jesus speech because it's feminine.

Why would Jesus call Simon Peter (stone) and then tell him that He Himself (or all apostles) are the rock that He'll built His church on (build on Himself?) in the same sentence? Was Jesus going to give the keys (symbol of reigning) to Himself? Any other interpretation than that widely accepted in Christian world doesn't make sense so it's not surprising that it is well documented in early church documents, eg:

Tatian the Syrian:
"Simon Cephas answered and said, ???You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God.??? Jesus answered and said unto him, ???Blessed are you, Simon, son of Jonah: flesh and blood has not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven. And I say unto thee also, that you are Cephas, and on this rock will I build my Church; and the gates of hades shall not prevail against it" (The Diatesseron 23 [A.D. 170]).


Tertullian:
"Was anything withheld from the knowledge of Peter, who is called ???the rock on which the Church would be built??? [Matt. 16:18] with the power of ???loosing and binding in heaven and on earth??? [Matt. 16:19]?" (Demurrer Against the Heretics 22 [A.D. 200]).


"[T]he Lord said to Peter, ???On this rock I will build my Church, I have given you the keys of the kingdom of heaven [and] whatever you shall have bound or loosed on earth will be bound or loosed in heaven??? [Matt. 16:18???19]. . . . What kind of man are you, subverting and changing what was the manifest intent of the Lord when he conferred this personally upon Peter? Upon you, he says, I will build my Church; and I will give to you the keys" (Modesty 21:9???10 [A.D. 220]).


The Letter of Clement to James:
"Be it known to you, my lord, that Simon [Peter], who, for the sake of the true faith, and the most sure foundation of his doctrine, was set apart to be the foundation of the Church, and for this end was by Jesus himself, with his truthful mouth, named Peter" (Letter of Clement to James 2 [A.D. 221]).


The Clementine Homilies:
"[Simon Peter said to Simon Magus in Rome:] ???For you now stand in direct opposition to me, who am a firm rock, the foundation of the Church??? [Matt. 16:18]" (Clementine Homilies 17:19 [A.D. 221]).


Origen:
"Look at [Peter], the great foundation of the Church, that most solid of rocks, upon whom Christ built the Church [Matt. 16:18]. And what does our Lord say to him? ???Oh you of little faith,??? he says, ???why do you doubt???? [Matt. 14:31]" (Homilies on Exodus 5:4 [A.D. 248])

But let's focus on the Bible again. You present Jesus as head and cornerstone for the Church and rightly so. How can a man be a head of a woman then if Jesus is her head already (women form the Church, don't they?)?
But I want you to understand that the head of every man is Christ, the head of a wife is her husband, and the head of Christ is God
It's clear that symbol can have more than one meaning.
An attempt to give a metaphor (stone/rock) only one exclusive meaning (Jesus) fails when we find out that Peter himself calls Jesus' followers to be living stones:
1pe 2:4-5 (4) And coming to Him as to a living stone which has been rejected by men, but is choice and precious in the sight of God, (5) you also, as living stones, are being built up as a spiritual house for a holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ.
So maybe Jesus spoke about all apostles in Mt 16:18? Why would he give new name to Simon then?
When we accept that Simon-Peter is a rock this allegory doesn't overlap with symbols (cornerstone, foundation) used in New Testament to describe Jesus as a founder of Church.

Now a couple of words about broader context. In Caesarea Philippi there's rather large rock where Jordan starts its flow (http://picturepush.com/public/1778458). Again, naming Simon a Stone in neighborhood of this place wouldn't make as much sense as calling him a Rock.
Another interesting fact is that the name Caiaphas (the high priest at that time) is written down in Aramaic exactly the same way as Cephas.

Back to the Bible again. They are other places that indicate Peter's primacy amongst apostles.
J 21:15-17 esv (15) When they had finished breakfast, Jesus said to Simon Peter, "Simon, son of John, do you love me more than these?" He said to him, "Yes, Lord; you know that I love you." He said to him, "Feed my lambs." (16) He said to him a second time, "Simon, son of John, do you love me?" He said to him, "Yes, Lord; you know that I love you." He said to him, "Tend my sheep." (17) He said to him the third time, "Simon, son of John, do you love me?" Peter was grieved because he said to him the third time, "Do you love me?" and he said to him, "Lord, you know everything; you know that I love you." Jesus said to him, "Feed my sheep.
That's another clear example that given symbol might be applied to more than one person. The Good Shepherd asks here Simon Peter, and only him, to take over this role.

Peter represents and speaks in the name of all apostles in many places:
Mt 15:13-16 (13) But He answered and said, "Every plant which My heavenly Father did not plant shall be uprooted. (14) "Let them alone; they are blind guides of the blind. And if a blind man guides a blind man, both will fall into a pit."
Mt 17:1-4 (1) Six days later Jesus took with Him Peter and James and John his brother, and led them up on a high mountain by themselves. (2) And He was transfigured before them; and His face shone like the sun, and His garments became as white as light. (3) And behold, Moses and Elijah appeared to them, talking with Him. (4) Peter said to Jesus, "Lord, it is good for us to be here; if You wish, I will make three tabernacles here, one for You, and one for Moses, and one for Elijah."
Mt 19:27-28 (27) Then Peter said to Him, "Behold, we have left everything and followed You; what then will there be for us?" (28) And Jesus said to them, "Truly I say to you, that you who have followed Me, in the regeneration when the Son of Man will sit on His glorious throne, you also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
Mt 26:40 (40) And He came to the disciples and found them sleeping, and said to Peter, "So, you [men] could not keep watch with Me for one hour?
Mk 11:19-22 (19) When evening came, they would go out of the city. (20) As they were passing by in the morning, they saw the fig tree withered from the roots [up]. (21) Being reminded, Peter said to Him, "Rabbi, look, the fig tree which You cursed has withered." (22) And Jesus answered saying to them, "Have faith in God.
Mt 18:21 (21) Then Peter came and said to Him, "Lord, how often shall my brother sin against me and I forgive him? Up to seven times?"
Luk 5:8-10 nau (8) But when Simon Peter saw [that], he fell down at Jesus' feet, saying, "Go away from me Lord, for I am a sinful man, O Lord!" (9) For amazement had seized him and all his companions because of the catch of fish which they had taken; (10) and so also [were] James and John, sons of Zebedee, who were partners with Simon. And Jesus said to Simon, "Do not fear, from now on you will be catching men."
Luk 8:45 (45) And Jesus said, "Who is the one who touched Me?" And while they were all denying it, Peter said, "Master, the people are crowding and pressing in on You."

Peter believed that his faith is exceptional:
Mt 26:31-33 nau (31) Then Jesus said to them, "You will all fall away because of Me this night, for it is written, 'I WILL STRIKE DOWN THE SHEPHERD, AND THE SHEEP OF THE FLOCK SHALL BE SCATTERED.' (32) "But after I have been raised, I will go ahead of you to Galilee." (33) But Peter said to Him, "[Even] though all may fall away because of You, I will never fall away."

Peter also represents apostles "outside":
Mt 17:24 (24) When they came to Capernaum, those who collected the two-drachma [tax] came to Peter and said, "Does your teacher not pay the two-drachma [tax]?"

Like Abram (Abraham) and Jacob (Israel) Simon Bar-Jonah received new name as sign of his role in founded by Jesus Church.

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Here is another well-thought-out essay! Thanks, Mariano

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