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Richard Dawkins, the Cowardly Clown
In keeping with his constant attention getting shenanigans and his equally constant absconding from debating apt challengers via a barrage of illogical and excuses, the moniker of cowardly clown fits Richard Dawkins more than ever (see Send in the Clowns – Richard Dawkins Obliges).
Enter Jonathan Sarfati (PhD in chemistry), senior scientist at Creation Ministries International, who recently published the book “The Greatest Hoax on Earth? Refuting Dawkins on Evolution.” Interestingly, Jonathan Sarfati sought to publish the book by the time that the 2010 Global Atheist Convention—billed as “The Rise of Atheism”—of March 12-14 at the Melbourne Convention and Exhibition Center in Australia.
The most intelligent, well informed and vociferous atheists in the world, including Richard Dawkins, Dan Barker, PZ Myers, et al, were challenged to debate while their worldwide choir was gathered in one place and yet, one by one they each found excuses to cower from debate even whilst proclaiming to their adherents the intellectual superiority of atheism.

Well, Jonathan Sarfati and his book were ready to go but, as if marching in lockstep, each celebrity atheist stuck their nose in the air and ran away to hide in the comfort of those who actually congratulate and defend them for their unwillingness and inability to publically debate their views with a real life opponent who is not a straw-man of their own making.

comfortable with his preferred audience

Meanwhile, the Atheist Foundation of Australia, which sponsored the atheist convention, wasted money during a time of worldwide recession and natural disaster purchasing bus ads that read, “Atheism – celebrate reason.”
Come again!?!?!
How do they celebrate reason whilst refusing to engage in reasoning?
It seems as if a more apt slogan would be “Atheism - Celibate Reason."
Thus, overall “The Rise of Atheism” has given way to the furthering fall of atheism: they should thank no God for the atheistic indoctrination of children of which many of them are so very fond.
As an aside: Jonathan Sarfati is a World Chess Federation (FIDE) Master and was the New Zealand national chess champion 1987-1988 AD. He is known for playing a dozen chess games at the same time while blindfolded.

Here is his new book:
Also with a new book challenging Richard Dawkins is John Blanchard whose, Dealing with Dawkins, is sure to be ignored as well:
Jonathan Sarfati recently moved from down under to the USA and he will surely be upsetting the Dawkinsian choir to no end. Here are some more of his books including “By Design” which is the first book on intelligent Design by a creationist:
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Debates
Anonymous (not verified) — Sun, 05/16/2010 - 10:00amDebates will not solve this issue. If Dawkins absolutely crushed his opponents in every debate, it wouldn't change anybody in the audience's mind. People aren't swayed by debates on issues like this and Dawkins knows it.
Furthermore, thanks to Creationists developing dubious debate methods, like the Gish Gallop, it really isn't worth debating them in the first place. They aren't going to argue against evolution because they don't really understand it, they're going to try to paint their opponent as immoral for being an atheist, and the religious people in the audience will dogmatically insist that their side is the winning side even if the atheist manages to destroy their argument.
Debates aren't where science happens. Science happens in a lab, not with two people arguing with each other on a stage.
I've noticed that you haven't responded to any of the comments I've made on your website, is it because you're too cowardly to debate me on your own website?
Also, you continually assert that atheism is without logic or reason, but you never say why, you just keep saying that this is the case, like if you say it enough it will be true.
Religion is without logic or reason. "AN INVISIBLE, ALL POWERFUL THING DID IT!" Where's the direct evidence for this? How come we never manage to get even the slightest glimpse of this all powerful invisible man and why is it that slowly, but surely, the things we thought that this invisible man did, like blasting things with bolts of lightning, are being proved to be natural phenomenon with much better explanations than "an invisible sky man did it"?
Deities and supernatural powers do not exist, and even if they did, they appear to do so little in this universe as to be meaningless and safely ignored, and this is an easy place to get to if you use the logic and reasoning of positivism or empiricism or materialism.
Mariano Grinbank, the clownish coward, who won't respond to comments on his blog and who continually practices truth by assertion. You're an idiot, sir.
Look who's talking
Anonymous — Sun, 01/09/2011 - 6:02pmIf Dawkins really has as you quote crushed opponents every time in debates, then why he begun taking cheap shots at minor creationist while refusing to debate more high ranking apologists? If he always wins then why hasn't he continued to debate to increase his notoriety from amongst the religious community? It's true science happens in a lab, but the way it works in a debate is that the men arguing are basing their statements on information they already know. You're nothing more than just another useless atheist who bases his arguments on common misconceptions and ignorance of Christian theology. The Bible condemns false God's, John Lennox in his debate against Dawkins says that Christianity is based on subjective, Historical, and Scientific evidence.
Atheism's without reason sir, just because I believe in a creator means I don't believe in science. Albert Einstein, Galileo, Leonardo Da Vinci, even Isaac Newton were devoted Christians, and they're one the best scientists in human history. Was there any verse in the Bible that said "Thou shalt not practice science"? Isaac Newton once said "Gravity explains the motion of planets, but does not explain who sets the planets into motion, God controls all things" Your example of lightning of creationists claiming that "An invisible sky man did it" is actually true. Since God created the universe and all it's complexities technically it was an "Invisible sky man" because he created it in the first place.
What's really irrational, believing that a creator created everything out of nothing, or to believe that everything was created out of nothing?
Your slander in claiming that there's no proof to support God can easily backfire.
Do you have any proof to say that he doesn't exist?
Before you attempt to engage in a rational argument, take the beam out of your own eye sir.
Einstein a "devoted Christian?"
Anonymous — Sat, 06/04/2011 - 7:46amAlbert Einstein was not a Christian, devoted or otherwise. He publicly stated that he believed in Spinoza's nature/"god," making him, like Spinoza, a Jew who rejected the biblical god.
Richard Dawkins lead me to God
Truly_Freed_By_Reason (not verified) — Sun, 05/16/2010 - 7:39amCongratulations Freed, you've just used petty excuse #3. Find the other 19 and you can send away for a Richard "call me a bright" Dawkins action figure (+£9.99 S&H).
In the meantime maybe you could convince Dawkins to take just one evening out of his busy schedule of attention seeking/publicity stunts to debate William Lane Craig? It'll only take about three hours...maybe only two, since the atheist position is sooooo intellectually overwhelming and self evident.
Having fun with your own private flames?
Freed_by_Reason (not verified) — Wed, 05/12/2010 - 2:52pmHas it occurred to you that some of these famous atheists, who have very busy schedules, must sometimes attend to things more important than debating with closed minded theists? Dan Barker, for instance, runs an organization with several pending court cases.
Unless you wish to simply attack atheists from behind a keyboard, I recommend you try calling the Atheist Experience, Rationally Speaking, or Skeptically Speaking. All respond to theists like yourself who want to shove a piece of your mind down our throats.
Same old propoganda
Anonymous — Sun, 01/09/2011 - 6:13pmFirst of all aren't you also aware that atheists also attack Christianity from a keyboard. I don't see people from Positiveatheism.org calling Dinesh D'souza to talk rationality.
Richard Dawkins is just another coward who only claims he's busy because he knows he's incapable of engaging in a rational argument. We're not debating atheists just for the sake of debating, we're debating them because we know they are vunerable in many ways. Since obviously Christians will continue to humiliate Atheists in public arguments it's quite obvious that they will avoid any direct approaches against us in order to maintain a proper morale.
Same old propoganda
Anonymous — Sun, 01/09/2011 - 6:11pmFirst of all aren't you also aware that atheists also attack Christianity from a keyboard. I don't see people from Positiveatheism.org calling Dinesh D'souza to talk rationality.
Richard Dawkins is just another coward who only claims he's busy because he knows he's incapable of engaging in a rational argument. We're not debating atheists just for the sake of debating, we're debating them because we know they are vunerable in many ways. Since obviously Christians will continue to humiliate Atheists in public arguments it's quite obvious that they will avoid any direct approaches against us in order to maintain a proper morale.
Yes, that must be it.
Mats (not verified) — Sun, 05/16/2010 - 2:59pmYes, Freed, "lack of time" must be the reason all those reason-driven atheists won't debate a Christian apologist. It HAS to be that, right?
Come on, now.