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Glenn Beck and Mormonism

This week, Glenn Beck made some interesting comments about why he became a Mormon.

In essence, his reasons will not surprise apologists.

He simply stated that a, one, or one of, the reasons was Mormonism’s concern for the family. He actually stated that if his family could turn out like the picturesque, perhaps ideal, Mormon family he would be willing to “drink the Kool Aid.”

In case you do not know “drink the Kool Aid” is a term that was popularized by the shockingly tragic events that unfolded when cult leader Jim Jones moved his People’s Temple to Jonestown, Guyana. To make a macabre story short: more than 900 members of his cult committed suicide and murders constituting the largest mass suicides/murders in history.

The reference to Kool Aid is actually a mistaken one as they died due to drinking Flavor Aid mixed with cyanideand a sedative.

Now, what Glenn Beck meant is that in order to get the results which he believed the Mormon church could provide, a great family, he was willing to follow them where they lead.

Where they lead is, of course, to utterly false non and anti biblical beliefs and practices—I elucidated some of these in my essay Glenn Beck – politics and theology, Mormonism and Christianity

The reason that this will not surprise apologists is that 1) regardless of the bankrupt media and pop-cultural opinions on the subject, Mormonism and traditional biblical Christianity are in utter conflict on the very essentials of essentials and so 2) there had to be something else at play.

What is at play can range from good PR about families, to some something such as not celebrating birthdays, only we have the infallible interpretation of the Bible, etc. Something that makes a stand out statement, something unique, something particular and peculiar.

What feeds the cults is a combination of the church’s failures and the lures of rebellion against YHVH’s actual word. It is no wonder that Glenn Beck scoffs at those who insist, as did Jose Smith, that there are major differences between Christianity and Mormonism: for him it is not about theology but about social benefits such as raising a great family. It is no wonder that someone who believes in innumerable gods and believes that he will become a god himself is preaching that “g,” “o,” “d” is “g,” “o,” “d” is “g,” “o,” “d” and why can’t we all just get along theologically? (see here and here for specifics about their theology).

Glenn Beck exemplifies this as he found a “church” that promised a good family and also one that rebels against YHVH’s self revelation in the one and only Messiah Jesus and the one and only Bible.

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Careful with the Kool-Aid

Anonymous — Thu, 05/10/2012 - 6:10pm

"He drank the Kool-Aid" was an expression used before Jonestown. It refers to the Woodstock era, when it was a way to dispense LSD. Strangely, the Jones incident didn't really change the meaning of the expression, because they both refer to true believers, though the original use is not as dark as the way you think of it.

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Anonymous — Mon, 04/11/2011 - 3:32pm

The Kool-Aid comment is, of course, a joke. He said this because all of the rumors and such out there about Latter-Day Saints turned to be false. Glenn's political opinions of course do not represent church opinion, as the Church does not take political sides, unless directly contradictory to Jesus Christ's teachings.

This is for anyone reading: if someone calls Joseph Smith "Jose" you know they are an anti-Mormon. Nobody ever called him that. I think the writer of this article also understands the depth of Glenn Beck conversion evidenced by his clarity and openness about being part of the Church.

I feel that many should seriously get on to fighting against evils of this world if they proclaim to be Christian (violence, adultery, crime, pornography, prostitution, etc) rather than wasting time on doctrinal differences (many don't even understand the doctrine but parrot out distortions of such). Understand who the real evil is. It's probably not the Latter-Day Saints that are mocked for living high morals, not drinking, not smoking, having strong families, etc.

BTW, repeating over and over again that LDS people are in a cult does not make them in a cult. It does make someone very deceptive that does the repeating.

The "perfect" family

Anonymous — Thu, 12/02/2010 - 6:40pm

I’ve seen that “perfect” family. They are also on every Jehovah’s Witness pamphlet. My, how they love to smile and go on picnics (no ants or flies at their picnics, I’m sure). Problem is, they don't exist.

I try to be patient with Glenn – after all, he did come out of the RCC. That’s the problem with beliefs systems with “infallible” leaders. When you leave, you just assume that the problem was that you were following the wrong “infallible” leader, and if you could just find the right leader and the “true” church, everything would be all right. So, off you go on the next leg of your quest.

Trouble is, there is no “true” church. There is only God’s inerrant written Word that never changes, and until people accept this they’ll just keep making one mistake on top of another.

Marylou

A more perfect family

Anonymous — Tue, 04/05/2011 - 2:43pm

I am sorry that you feel that way Marylou. Latter-Day Saints never claim to be perfect. We believe that religion helps make bad men good, and good men better. We are always striving to be perfect.

My family is partly LDS and partly not. It is not a perfect family in many ways. But I feel that I have been lucky to have so many good examples and I feel that the closer my wife and I live the Gospel of Jesus Christ the closer we will approach a perfect family. But that only happens through repenting, and forgiving through Jesus Christ.

A more perfect family

Anonymous — Tue, 04/05/2011 - 2:40pm

I am sorry that you feel that way Marylou. Latter-Day Saints never claim to be perfect. We believe that religion helps make bad men good, and good men better. We are always striving to be perfect.

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Anonymous — Tue, 09/11/2012 - 8:36pm

Keep Striving to be perfect honey, and keep failing miserably. You can and will never be perfect, if you could be then Jesus would have never had to die on the cross. If you believe in Jesus Christ then you're sins are covered by his sacrifice by grace alone. Jesus died to pay our debt....when he was on the cross he said "it is finished" because he accomplished what he came here to do. You are not understanding at all what Jesus did for you. You can and never will be able to perfect, you can not fulfill the Law no matter how hard you try. That is why Jesus died. For you. Please read the New Testament as a child. Put the Book of Mormon aside for a minute and read what Jesus said. Please. And so you know. The Bible is TRANSLATED CORRECTLY!! YOU CAN TRUST THE WORDS OF JESUS. THE BOOK OF MORMON BARELY MENTIONS JESUS. Please prove me wrong and just start reading the New Testament and start to learn who Jesus really is by who Jesus actually said he was, not by who Joseph Smith said he was.

Striving to be perfect...

Anonymous — Sat, 09/15/2012 - 1:37am

Not one thing wrong in striving for excellence! We can and will become perfected in / through Christ who is the Truth, The Way & the Life....His Atoning sacrifice makes this possible. He makes us whole as we exercise faith in Him, repent of our sins and yield our will to Him; putting our full faith in Him who is mighty to save and ultimately exalt in His heavenly kingdom...becoming heirs of the kingdom & joint heirs with Christ...This is life eternal that they might know Thee the only true God and Jesus Christ whom Thou hast sent.
I trust the words of Jesus in the Holy Bible. I trust the words, testimony & teachings of the the prophets who testified that Jesus Christ would come as Messiah, Savior, Redeemer, Prince of peace, Anointed one, Master, Son of Mary, Son of David, Son of God, True Vine, Stem of Jesse, Wonderful, Counselor, The Mighty God, The Everlasting Father, The Lamb of God, The Author & Finisher of my Faith. The Alpha & Omega....
I also trust in the words/testimony of His Apostles.
I also trust in the words/testimony of His prophets & disciples in the Book of Mormon; which is another testement of Jesus Christ:

"For we labor diligently to write, to persuade our children and also our brethren, to believe in Christ, and to be reconciled to God; for we know that it is by grace that we are saved, after all we can do.
And not withstanding we believe in Christ, we keep the Law of Moses, and look forward with steadfastness unto Christ until the law shall be fulfilled.
For, for this end was the law given; wherefore the law hath become dead unto us and we are made alive in Christ because of our faith; yet we keep the law of Moses because of the commandments.
And we talk of Christ, we rejoice in Christ, we preach of Christ, we prophesy of Christ and we write according to our prophecies, that our children may know to what source they may look for a remission of their sins."
Book of Mormon (2 Nephi 25: 23-26)
*The prophet Nephi testifying to the people that Christ would come and fulfill the law of Moses... Christ would redeem us! This prophecy of Christ takes place aprox. 550 BC.

"And now my beloved brethren, after ye have gotten into this straight and narrow path, I would ask if all is done? Behold I say unto you nay; for ye have not come thus far save it were by the word of Christ with unshaken faith in him, relying wholly upon the merits of him who is mighty to save.
wherefore, ye must press forward with a steadfastness in Christ, having a perfect brightness of hope, and a love of God and of all men. Wherefore, if ye shall press forward, feasting upon the word of Christ, and endure to the end, behold, thus saith the Father, ye shall have eternal life."
And now, behold, my beloved brethren, this is the way; and there is none other way nor name given under heaven whereby man can be saved in the kingdom of God. And now, behold, this is the doctrine of Christ, and the only and true doctrine of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost, which is one God without end. Amen."
Book of Mormon (2 Nephi 31: 19-21)
*The prophet Nephi expounding "the doctrine of Christ" About 550 BC.

"Yea, come unto Christ and be perfected in Him, and deny yourselves of all ungodliness; and love God with all your might, mind and strength, then is his grace sufficient for you, that by his grace ye may be perfect in Christ; and if by the grace of God ye are perfect in Christ, ye can in nowise deny the power of God.
And again, if ye by the grace of God are perfect in Christ, and deny not His power, then are ye sanctified in Christ by the grace of God, through the shedding of the blood of Christ, which is in the covenant of the Father unto the remission of your sins, that ye become holy, without spot."
Book of Mormon (Moroni 10:32-33) The prophet *Moroni speaking/testifying to all people the doctrine of Christ. About AD 421

I know that Jesus Christ is my savior and redeemer, He paid the price for my sins saving me from spiritual death and also shattered the bands of physical death through the miracle of His glorious resurrection. His great Atoning sacrifice is central to all of human history "God so loved the world..." and is the center/core of my faith. God lives! Jesus is the Christ! The Savior of all who will embrace him and follow Him. His arms are always open to us. I love him!
Mormon Mike

Striving to be perfect...

Anonymous — Sat, 09/15/2012 - 2:08am

BTW & FYI; references to Jesus Christ in the Book of Mormon number in the 100's if not 1000's. Especially if the names Savior, Messiah, Redeemer, Son of God etc. are counted.

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